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“This Far and No Further”
Science’s Mysteries – “This Far and No Further”
Dave Stein
Abstract
Science and its underpinnings, mathematics and logic, are shaking their own foundations, with
profound implications not only for the scientific method but also for the relationship between
science and mysticism. For example, recent advances in quantum physics, and continual re-
interpretations of earlier findings, are calling into question the notion of the detached observer –
a notion fundamental to the contemporary scientific method – as well as the reductionistic
approach of attempting to understand an entirety in terms of its components.
Other findings indicate that uncertainty, randomness, and inconsistency may be basic to nature,
with pervasive implications for the predictive and descriptive capability of science. Indeed, it is
at the level of the chaotic, quantum substrate that mystical laws may operate. As for science’s
foundational mathematics and logic, they rest on axioms that, in a striking parallel with some
Western religions, are unprovable, consensus-based, and ultimately accepted “on faith.” Beyond
these gatekeepers to knowledge lies yet another. Stated differently, “This far and no further.”
Like religion, science has mysteries that are beyond its reach.
Increasing studies of consciousness, intuitive processes, and some of the healing modalities can
be expected to magnify the limits of reductionism-based science. This is because these studies
generally do not yield the repeatable results that the scientific method demands. It is envisioned
that the scientific method will need to evolve to encompass subjective experiences that have been
traditionally regarded as outside its realm – and that are inherent to mystical teachings and
consciousness research – perhaps starting with a framework that recognizes the
interconnectedness of the observer and the observed.
This paper concludes with commentary on cultural, social, and academic trends that – in parallel
with developments in science – highlight the limits of reductionism.
Resumo
A ciência, sua lógica e matemática fundamentais, estão agitando seus próprios fundamentos,
com implicações profundas não somente no método científico mas também na relação entre
ciência e misticismo. Por exemplo, recentes avanços em física quântica, e reinterpretações
contínuas de descobertas anteriores, estão pedindo que o observador tenha uma noção imparcial
– uma noção fundamental para o método científico contemporâneo – bem como uma abordagem
reducionística na tentativa de entender a totalidade com relação a seus componentes.
Outras descobertas indicam que a incerteza, o acaso, e a inconsistência são fatores fundamentais
da natureza, com implicações difundidas na capacidade descritiva e preditiva da ciência. De fato,
é a nível do substrato quântico e caótico que as leis místicas podem operar. Quanto à lógica e à
matemática fundamentais da ciência, elas permanecem na hipótese que, num paralelo
surpreendente com algumas religiões ocidentais, não podem ser comprovadas, baseadas num
consenso e por fim são aceitas “na fé”. Além dessas posições de conhecimento ainda existem
outras. Declaradas de forma diferente, “Até Aqui e Não Mais”. Como a religião, a ciência tem
mistérios que estão além de serem alcançados.
O crescente número de estudos sobre consciência, processos intuitivos, e algumas modalidades
de cura tem como expectativa aumentar os limites da ciência com base no reducionismo. Isto
acontece porque estes estudos em geral não produzem os mesmos resultados repetidamente
conforme exigidos pelos métodos científicos. Prevê-se que o método científico terá que evoluir
para incluir experiências subjetivas que vêm sendo tradicionalmente consideradas como estando
fora de seu domínio – e que são inerentes aos ensinamentos místicos e pesquisas sobre a
consciência – talvez começando com uma estrutura que reconheça a interconexão do observador
e do observado.
Este estudo foi concluído com comentários sobre tendências acadêmicas, culturais e sociais que
– em paralelo com a evolução da ciência – destacam os limites do reducionismo.
INTRODUCTION
Like the religions and creation myths that predate it, contemporary science provides a framework
for attempting to understand the universe. Replacing Western religious dogma with a new
consensus-based scientific authority that is grounded in repeatable experiment and observation, it
is itself based on a protocol known as the scientific method.
contemporary scientific protocol is based, among other things, on the notion of the “detached
observer” or experimenter, who is separate from – and impartial to – that which is observed. In
this sense, and in other ways, too, it is reductionistic, attempting to understand the whole in terms
of the parts. A classic illustration is the notion of “action-at-a-distance” that underpins the
inverse square law equations for gravitational force and electrostatic force. In terms of this law,
a mass m1 “over there” at a distance R “from here” exerts a force on a mass m2 “over here”;
electrical charges behave similarly.
However, scientific advances are now calling into question the notion of the detached observer,
perhaps rendering him/her an anachronism. Actually, it is not always the advances themselves
that are new; instead, their impacts are now becoming better understood as they are continually
reinterpreted and may well be increasingly pervasive in next-generation science. For example,
since the advent of quantum mechanics, it has become more readily apparent that the process of
observing or measuring something influences the outcome – a phenomenon that is, however,
generally inconsequential in everyday life. In a rough sense, this is because at quantum scales,
the mass-energies used to make the measurements are comparable to the mass-energies of that
which is being measured.1 But the mechanism of influence does not stop here. The act of
choosing the experiment itself influences the outcome. Case in point: an electron can manifest as
a particle or as a wave, depending on how one chooses to observe it. One can argue that this
applies in the social sciences and other walks of life as well – even in public opinion polls –
since the answer to a question is often influenced by the way in which the question is framed.
Thus, just how “detached” is the observer or principal investigator?
QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT – THE END OF REDUCTIONISM?
The proverbial plot thickens. Not only does the act of observation influence the outcome; not
only does the act of choosing the experiment influence the outcome – the notion of separateness
or reductionism may itself need to be re-addressed, specifically, in the context of the Einstein-
Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) paradox and “gedanken experiment” first proposed in 1935 and
performed years later by Alain Aspect (1982).2 As commonly interpreted, the results of this
experiment challenge the reductionistic notion of “action-at-a-distance,” as this would require a
superluminal signal that violates special relativity. Instead, the results suggest an
interconnectedness or “quantum entanglement” that seemingly permits “instantaneous
communication” among the particles involved without requiring the forbidden superluminal
signal. But if the particles involved in the experiment are indeed quantum entangled, then one
might ask how “separate” they are and indeed what “communication” means.3 To a number of
physicists, the results of this experiment point to a larger “system” whose properties depend on
its entirety and are thus beyond analysis in terms of its components – in their parlance,
nonlocality. If so, then how scalable is this notion of larger system, and with what implications
to reductionist-based scientific frameworks based on an “over there” and “over here,” together
with a seemingly detached observer?4
More profoundly, if quantum entanglement calls into question the notion of “communication”
and “signal” – perhaps even the notion of separate particles – then one might ask how scalable
the notion of entanglement is. Conceivably it extends to the macroscopic level and to all things.
Indeed, the eminent physicist David Bohm has postulated that an “unbroken wholeness”
underlies the seeming separateness of the everyday world.5
THIS FAR – AND NO FURTHER
Compounding this challenge are other limitations inherent in science and mathematics, and now
perhaps even in their foundational deductive logic – limitations that scientists themselves have
been among the first to acknowledge. One such limitation is randomness. Quantum mechanics
describes nature as probabilistic as opposed to deterministic. For example, the radial wave
function for an electron orbiting an atom predicts the probability that the electron is at a distance
r1, r2, r3, etc. from the nucleus of the atom when its position is measured. It does not predict a
specific value for the electron’s distance from the nucleus. Furthermore, the radial wave
function predicts radial distances at which the probability of finding the electron is relatively
high, interspersed with radial distances at which the probability is zero – in other words,
discreteness. During the early years of quantum mechanics, this probabilistic aspect of quantum
mechanics was resisted by no less of a physicist than Albert Einstein himself, who is reported to
have stated, “The theory [quantum mechanics] says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer
to the secret of the ‘old one.’ I, at any rate, am convinced that He [God] does not throw dice” –
Einstein’s own role in ushering in quantum mechanics notwithstanding.6 In response, physicist
Neils Bohr, father of the Bohr Theory of the atom, allegedly retorted, “Stop telling God what to
do.” Years later, the prominent physicist Stephen Hawking offered his own perspective: “God
not only plays dice but sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen.” Hawking’s quote
alludes to the possibility of hidden variables; however, an alternative possibility that is gaining
increasing acceptance7 is that uncertainty and inconsistency may be intrinsic to nature and that
indeed chaos may underlie the more predictable orderly macroscopic everyday world – a notion
consistent with the concept of a violently fluctuating, turbulent “quantum foam” as a descriptor
of space-time at small scales, turbulent to the point that directions of space and time lose their
meanings. This randomness, this quantum chaos, may have profound implications for the
predictive and descriptive capability of science – and it is at the level of the chaotic, quantum
substrate that mystical laws may operate.
Further limiting what can be known is the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which prohibits
simultaneous knowledge, with arbitrary precision, of two conjugate variables – e.g., position and
momentum (along the same axis), angular position and angular momentum (relative to the same
axis of rotation), or energy uncertainty and the duration of the uncertainty. Arguably, it does not
make sense to even talk about two conjugate variables simultaneously. The product of the
uncertainties is at best on the order of Planck’s constant, a lower bound. The Heisenberg
uncertainty principle supports the contention by some physicists that uncertainty is basic to
nature and that beyond a certain point, nature is unknowable in the objective scientific sense8 –
again with profound implication for the predictive capability of science.
But it is not only at the quantum scale that the capability to know – objectively and scientifically
– is limited. At the cosmological level, the modern accepted “creation myth” – the Big Bang –
may have an event horizon that puts it forever beyond human reach – a possibility suggested by
the eminent physicist Stephen Hawking.
BUT NOT EVEN THIS FAR
Even the mathematics and logic that underpin science itself have their own inherent limitations.
For example, in quantum logic, the Law of the Excluded Middle (i.e., that everything must be
“true” or “false”) no longer rigorously applies. Taken to the extreme, this challenges the notion
of binary, “either-or” thinking – with possible eventual implication to “us-them” thinking and
counterpoint-based identity in everyday life.
A further fundamental limit to deductive reasoning – indeed to the axiomatic mathematical
systems that underpin the sciences – is captured by Gödel’s theorem, which itself is not exactly
new. According to mathematician Kurt Gödel, the consistency of a finite mathematical system is
provable only at a level external to itself, and this in turn argues against the completeness of the
system.9 In addition to giving rise to paradoxes – e.g., the Barber of Seville paradox10 – Gödel’s
theorem represents an inherent limit to axiomatic mathematics and to what can be known or
expressed in terms of it. This represents another fundamental limit to deductive reasoning.
Indeed, science, mathematics, and logic are shaking their own foundations.
JUST THE COUNTERFACTS, PLEASE
It is not only new discoveries by which science, mathematics, and logic are “proving” their own
limitations. Continual reinterpretations of old discoveries – even going back as far as Thomas
Young’s double slit experiment in 1802 – are playing a role as well.
In Young’s double slit experiment, photons pass through two slits and impinge upon a screen
(for example, photographic film). If the photons are regarded as electromagnetic waves, then
wave mechanics describes and predicts the alternating bright and dark bands recorded on the
photographic strip, bands that correspond respectively to constructive and destructive
interference. This is straightforward.
But suppose that the intensity of the photon source is reduced to the point that only one photon is
in transit at a time. Over a period of time, the photographic film still records the interference
pattern that wave mechanics describes! In this case, what is interfering with what, if only one
photon is in transit at a given time? What is the “wave” now, except a description of the
statistical distribution of the photon paths? The fact that the interference pattern is still obtained
is the impact of the path not taken – an arguably counterintuitive phenomenon known as
counterfactuality, which has implications for logic and for scientific experimentation. Thus,
counterfactuality can be regarded as the effect, on an observable outcome, of the mere existence
of an alternative that did not actually occur.11
Continuing, if the experiment is repeated with an attempt made to identify the path through
which each photon passes (e.g., by adding detectors near the two slits), then the interference
pattern is destroyed and the well-known single-slit pattern is observed!
BEYOND THE HUMAN VANTAGE POINT
Perhaps the most fundamental limitation to what can be known objectively – scientifically – is
the inability to (objectively) transcend the human experience. The universe is unknowable in an
objective, scientific sense independent of human measurements and observations. One might
regard this limitation as an extension of the anthropic principle.12
SCIENCE – A NEW RELIGION
Scientists have long known that science, itself a means to understand the universe, at best only
describes and predicts; it does not “explain” except in terms of consistency with other accepted
(that is, consensus-based) observations and facts – and as discussed above, the predictive
capability of science is now under assault. At some point, science and the mathematics and logic
that underpin it rest on fundamental axioms and postulates that are beyond deductive proof and
accepted only by consensus and “on faith.” In this sense, science differs from religion only in
the level of consensus involved and the source of its authority, replacing religious teachings,
doctrine, and dogma with a consensus-based scientific authority that demands, among other
things, the replicability of experimental results. An additional resemblance is that science, like
some religions, has its own mysteries, the answers to which lie beyond its reach.
AND NOW, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
Although many regard science as a rebellion against religious dogma and the authority of
religious establishments, especially the establishments of “revealed religions,” it substituted its
own authority – scientific consensus grounded in results that can be replicated – for the authority
that it sought to supplant. In doing this, it has left little room for the magnified role of personal
experience that is inherent in physics of consciousness research, especially personal experience
that cannot be reliably replicated under seemingly controlled conditions – but that as
“nonconsensus reality” (Mindell 2000, 25ff, 67, 209, 258ff, 587, 592) cannot be disproven.
Indeed, contemporary science is arguably ill-equipped to accommodate anecdotal evidence
beyond evidence aggregated from large statistically-significant population samples. Apart from
the influence of subtle energies not yet understood, one possible reason for this non-repeatability
in certain experiments is the mutual influence and indeed the entanglement of the observer with
the observed. From another vantage point, non-repeatability may stem from the chaos and
indeterminacy believed to underlie the more predictable and orderly macroscopic world.
Another mechanism for non-repeatability is the possibility of hidden variables, that is, subtle
influences that are not taken into account or perhaps not even understood. For example, recent
research suggests a correlation between space meteorology – for example, the variations in the
Schumann resonances with solar activity – and the effectiveness of intuitive processes and some
healing modalities (Oschman 2000, 97-104, 107-110). Other research corroborates the power of
intention, that is, “mind over matter” – results for which vary according to test subject and other
influences (Jahn and Dunne 1987, 46, 52, 72; Oschman 2000, 227). Additional subtle influences
that have been proposed are local geological conditions (Oschman 2000, 187) and local electric
and magnetic fields including magnetic shielding (Oschman 2000, 97-98; Higgins 2007; Higgins
2010).
THE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL CONFLUENCE
Although randomness, uncertainty, counterfactuality, inherent limitations of axiomatic
frameworks, and the demise of the detached observer herald profound changes in the scientific
method (albeit not immediately), these changes are not happening in isolation. Indeed, social
and cultural factors may well magnify the impacts of these limitations. With the increased
interaction among the cultures of the world – for example, via travel, communications,
commerce, and education (including self-development) – there is an increased cross-flow of
ideas, philosophies, and perspectives among peoples, cultures, and regions. In comparison with
cultures generally characterized as “Western,” Asian cultures are generally more holistic and less
reductionistic in their approach to nearly everything, including philosophy, religion, medicine,
business relationships, and even warfare. This is underscored by the fact that in contrast with the
individualism that characterizes the United States and parts of Europe, Asian cultures tend to be
more group and personal relationship oriented.13 A confluence of Asian cultural influences and
advances in particle physics may pave the way for a scientific method that is less reductionistic
than the present one – and indeed the term “particle” itself has a reductionistic connotation.
To this confluence one might add the complex interrelationships among environmental,
economic policy, and business decisions – interrelationships illustrated by ripple effects that
sometimes progress full circle and that are not captured by near-term focused utility functions.14
One can envision that these complex interrelationships will give rise not only to more holistic
approaches to social issues but also to a way of thinking beyond “us-them” – a way that
synergizes with the complementary holistic framework that is emerging in science and through
Asian cultural influences.
Foresight studies15 and the organizations that enable and support them might well be a fourth
player in this confluence. By their very nature, foresight studies are holistic and interdisciplinary
as they examine the cross-cutting implications of technology advances, social trends, and policy
decisions – implications far beyond the realm of the academic departments that mirror the
departments in governments and corporations. Furthermore, foresight studies and analyses
require more than extrapolative thinking – they require discontinuous, nonlinear thinking that
anticipates the otherwise unexpected events, known in the profession as “wild cards.”
THE OUTLOOK
Religion and contemporary science face a common challenge – people are seeking answers that
are seemingly beyond both. In this quest, an increased role can be expected for personal
experience that is not readily accommodated either by consensus-based religions or by
contemporary science.
A complete characterization of the scientific method to come would be premature, as “this far
and no further” itself recedes with time. One can be sure that there will be scientific advances
that are not yet envisioned. Like many scientific laws and findings before them, the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle, quantum logic, counterfactuality, and even Gödel’s theorem may
themselves be overturned someday, as scientific principles, laws, and discoveries are rarely final.
Nonetheless, it is reasonable to anticipate a new scientific method that emerges from the seeming
irreconcilability of personal experience and the entangled observer with the scientific method
and consensus-based science – one that encompasses subjective experiences that are inherent to
consciousness research, perhaps starting with a framework that recognizes the
interconnectedness of the observer and the observed. One can expect the new scientific method
to be based on complementary ways of thinking that even challenge traditional notions of
academic authority – experiential in addition to consensus-based, and holistic in addition to
deductive and reductionistic.
Equally premature would be speculation on the remaining “tenure” of the scientific method as
we presently know it. Less disputable is the growing possibility for substantial changes in
scientific protocol.
In addition, mutual enrichment of the physical sciences, cultural cross-flow, the social sciences,
and foresight studies can be anticipated. For example, one might anticipate enhanced awareness
to the complex interdependencies (“entanglements”) that characterize social issues – and perhaps
even a re-convergence of science and mysticism.
APPENDIX – THE EINSTEIN-PODOLSKY-ROSEN (EPR) PARADOX AND ALAIN
ASPECT’S EXPERIMENT
Alain Aspect’s 1982 experiment, based on the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen “gedanken experiment,”
demonstrated the quantum entanglement of two particles emitted by a system – the alternative
being a superluminal signal that is forbidden by special relativity. The experiment is based on a
quantum mechanical property known as “spin” (not the same as mechanical spin in everyday
life). Specifically, it is based on the fact that spin is a conserved quantity and that quantum
mechanics permits knowledge and measurement along only one spin projection axis at a time –
for example, left-right or up-down but not both. (Electrons, for example, have spin projections
of .(1/2)(h/2.) where h is Planck’s constant. For brevity, this is often expressed as .1/2,
where the signs differentiate between left and right or up and down.) Subsequent measurement
of spin projection along another axis destroys the knowledge gained from the first measurement.
In Alain Aspect’s experiment, a system--M--emits two particles--A and B--in opposite
directions. As spin is a conserved vector quantity, the total spin of M, A, and B after the
emission must equal the spin of M prior to the emission. This forces the vector sum of A’s spin
projection and B’s spin projection to equal zero. Thus, if A has spin up, B must have spin down.
Until measured, the spin of A and B are indeterminate.
In one variation of the experiment, the choice of axis against which to measure the spin
projections of particles A and B was made after the particles were emitted and in transit. If the
up-down axis is chosen and a measurement of particle A indicates that it is spin up, then particle
B must somehow instantaneously “know” that its spin must be down. If the left-right axis is
chosen and particle A is found to be spin left, then particle B must again instantaneously know
that it must be spin right. Thus, particle B (not measured) must somehow instantaneously
1 As a macroscopic analogy, consider using a thermometer with a bulb the size of a basketball to
measure the temperature of water in a bathtub. Unless the thermometer bulb and the bathtub water are at
thermal equilibrium at the outset, the very immersion of the large bulb into the water itself changes the
water’s temperature, the “accuracy” of the thermometer notwithstanding.
2 See Appendix.
3 An extremely crude analogy – consider a fish in an aquarium and two observers, each looking
through a separate side of the aquarium. If the observers are somehow unaware of each other’s presence,
the movements of the “two” observed fish will be correlated – as one might expect, considering that they
are the same fish!
4 The interconnectedness has a possible parallel with the Ayurvedic perspective of the observer,
the observed, and the process of observing.
5 Interpreted in this context, the New Testament passage – “As ye do unto the least of my brethren,
so ye do unto me” – can be regarded as a quantum mechanical statement.
6 In 1921, Albert Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize for his research on the photoelectric effect,
a quantum phenomenon.
7 For example, Rosen discusses this at length.
8 Ibid.
“know” to manifest a spin opposite to that of A, relative to an axis chosen after the particles are
emitted. But such an instantaneous communication requires the forbidden superluminal signal.
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9 (Actually, this is one of his theorems.) In 1931, mathematician Kurt Gödel proved that no
axiomatic mathematical system can prove its own consistency and completeness through deductive
reasoning.
10 It has been argued that paradoxes and pseudo-paradoxes – for example, the legendary barber who
“shaves himself if and only if he does not shave himself” – are inevitable consequences of finite
axiomatic systems.
11 Hypothetical analogy – suppose that the macroscopic world behaved similarly, and imagine a
person driving from point A to point B with a choice of several possible routes. Even if the vehicle is the
only one on the road at the time (such that traffic volume is not a factor), the mere existence of routes not
traversed influences the driver’s experience of the route chosen! The implications of the double slit
experiment, and of the more elaborate similar experiments that followed it, continue to be subjects of
study.
12 In one of its simple forms, the anthropic principle states that the universe is the way that it is
because otherwise we (humans) would not be here to notice.
13 These cultural differences are discussed at length by Groff.
14 For example, employer downsizing in a given geographic area can precipitate ripple effects in
which progressively fewer people can afford any company’s goods and services, in turn leading to more
layoffs in a vicious circle sense. A wave of home foreclosures can result in neighborhood blight,
ultimately impacting the very financial institutions that initiated the foreclosure actions. Pollution in one
part of the world recognizes no geopolitical boundaries and can have far-reaching impacts across the
globe. Uncompensated overtime and a workaholic culture entail hidden healthcare costs.
15 Also known as future studies.
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"o acaso é uma improbabilidade matemática.Deus não joga dados com o universo (Einstein).Logo não foi por acaso que fiz uma amizade muito legal de um jeito improvável:jogando online.E acredito ser nosso dever reconhecer e enaltecer as boas qualidades de uma pesssoa que até neste mundo virtualmente incoerente, consegue transmitir luz e amor
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this picture by Da vinci have no clue of who''''''s the babys are.if Jesus is the one with maria its an heresia because he is begging bless to john,if jesus is sitted on floor its also an heresia because maria is makig a gesture that sugest she is trying to make Him alway....What is your opinion?
Nesta imagem de Leonardo da Vinci não tenho idéia de quem sãao as crianças pis não tem legenda.Se Jesus está no colo de maria seria uma heresia , porque ele está pedindo a benção de joão , se Jesus está no chão também uma heresia , porque maria aparenta estar afastando jesus com a mão.. Qual é a sua opinião ?
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